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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Muzztang
AFK cloakers are a major problem for miners and haulers, because they like to sit in a system until an easy target presents itself and then kill it. I feel that if I have put up a TCU and an IHUB in a system and am paying alot of isk to CCP monthly for upgrades to the system and mainenance to the gates, I should be able to find any intruder in my system and remove them. Solution: Create a Decloaking Array that is anchored at a POS (kinda like the scanning array), but now I have to plug in a decloaking unit into the IHUB (so CCP can charge me more isk monthly, just like a jump bridge) and now I can turn on my decloaking array. My idea on how the decloaking array would work: Stays on constantly in the system and pings all ships in the system every 10 minutes, decloaking cloaked ones. Now the decloaked ones have a timeframe (say 3 minutes before they can cloak again, or whatever time would be fair for a skilled prober to try and find them, but the ping will decloak them 7 minutes after they recloak). My whole point here is that if my corporation / alliance is paying CCP big time isk monthly for systems, we should be able to keep out intruders anyway possible.
You actually think you "own" the system? lol
Monocles are so two weeks ago.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:42:00 -
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The only real problem with afk cloakers is that people are chicken **** and afk cloakers prey on their fears. It's amazing how someone in a magnate, while at work, can shut down an entire system for a day.
Someone AFK cloaking is only a problem if you let them be. Use DScan. Stay at your computer while running ops. Use a buddy. You have the guys name... Google his arse, see if he blogs. We had a stealth bomber in our wormhole, I caught his name during a failed attempt on my mighty bestower. Google turned up a blog, got plenty of intel needed to determine his hours online, etc. He left a few days later empty handed.
They're only a problem if you do nothing and let them be a problem. We don't need new gimmicks, new modules, nerfs, buffs, fuels... just brains and balls.
Monocles are so two weeks ago.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.08.19 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Killer Gandry
Cloaking is nothing else than changing the refraction of light on an object.
This however doesn't mean the object is gone. It means the light doesn't reflect it's countours back as people are used.
However EVE being a highly evolved and technical place should understand the simple physics behind this and a simple counter to this would be a pulse that reflects the mass of the cloaked object.
It's easy enough implemented to make this pulse range limited and skill dependant.
Next to being the terror of systems in a cloak you also have a new profession.
Terror of afk cloakers.
Thoughts?
I don't think DScan works by visually looking for ships up to 14AU out...
Monocles are so two weeks ago.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.08.19 14:43:00 -
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Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 19/08/2011 14:43:59
Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 19/08/2011 14:43:03
I don't think I actually like this idea, but what about combat probes specifically designed to scan down cloaked vessels only? You'd need an expanded launcher, of course, also should require maxed skills in addition to an additional skill, and it should be freaking hard with small initial starting radii, say a max. of 4AU. It gives a chance to find an afk cloaker, but one with an intelligent safe would be really hard to nail down, as would one that periodically moves his safes to areas he knows were recently scanned.
In exchange for a larger radius, 8 to 16Au, I could see cloaking also blocking your transponder signal going outbound so you disappear from local...
Edit: By combat only, uncloaked ships would not be detected by these probes... you're looking for the wrong signals.
Monocles are so two weeks ago.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.08.22 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: oswin
Originally by: Josef Huffenpuff
FFS, not this bl**dy topic AGAIN 
Its Zero F'ing Zero.
Its not meant to be safe
Deal with it.
Someone with their arse parked in a station is "safe" as well. Just like an afk cloaker, they're also not a threat.
You are right, 0.0 isn't suppose to be safe, thats why posts about this topic exist. a cloaked safespoted ship is flawlessly safe because it can't be found.
Monocles are so two weeks ago.
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